tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16355954.post6085760503250671076..comments2024-03-28T08:57:53.180+00:00Comments on Darwinian Conservatism by Larry Arnhart: Does Ethnic Nationalism Have Greater Genetic Fitness than Classical Liberalism?Larry Arnharthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14619785331100785170noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16355954.post-25001992823102126042017-02-22T13:43:29.328+00:002017-02-22T13:43:29.328+00:00Why is the criterion of "adaptive ethnic stra...Why is the criterion of "adaptive ethnic strategy" raising fertility rates? Let's take the example of Quebec. If Quebec had surrendered to anglophone business interests in the 1970s, it would have been reduced to a small "French quarter" in Montreal for tourists to visit. Quebec would no longer exist as a French political unit, and the francophones would face the same fate. But because Quebec did defend its ethnic interests, it continues to exist, though birth rates are below replacement. And so? Quebec may be on a trajectory towards extinction (based on birth rates), but at least the ethnic core still exists (and as you note, fertility rates go up and down). Preserving that ethnic core surely has to be considered an "adaptive ethnic strategy," surely more adaptive than the strategy pursued by anglophones in Cameroon, for example. bjdubbsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16355954.post-85887740858656469072017-01-19T23:51:39.803+00:002017-01-19T23:51:39.803+00:00I think liberals are less concerned with ethnic su...I think liberals are less concerned with ethnic survival than are ethnic nationalists in part because they are universalists, in part due to Christian influence. As a consequence they feel happy with the idea of a liberal world where everyone comes to have a better existence, even if their own particular ethnic group diminishes in numbers. <br /><br />--Les BrunswickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16355954.post-49268265977625340282017-01-16T21:43:24.492+00:002017-01-16T21:43:24.492+00:00This is an excellent post. I wanted to suggest one...This is an excellent post. I wanted to suggest one consideration that has not been properly evaluated:<br /><br />Setting aside the question of whether liberal states are beneficial (from a reproductive fitness perspective) to the populations that create such states, even with no immigration, are liberal societies capable of sustaining themselves in the long-run?<br /><br />This question is prompted by the observation that even within liberal societies, the people that benefit the most (from a reproductive fitness perspective) in a liberal society often are incapable of creating or sustaining the liberal society. This is a parallel to differential reproductive rates of immigrants who come from populations that may not be capable of creating or sustaining liberal societies (whether due to IQ or other differences). <br /><br />If this is true, then your last paragraph does not support your argument as you claim, because while the natural desire for children will re-assert itself, it may result in the production of people who cannot sustain the liberal society that they benefited from, and thus liberal societies do not appear to be stable in the long-run.<br /><br />I think the true evolutionary stable form of social organization may be the patriarchal family, which is stable regardless of the form of political organization it happens to be located in. Liberal societies appear to best serve human interests but may not be capable of long-run survival as their productive citizens do not reproduce themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com